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 Post subject: Re: Replica Kits
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:36 am 
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Lancashire Blue wrote:
Right.

I can give you the definitive answer. And part of it is that it depends on the manufacturer. I've had loads of players shirts over the years and had quite a large collection before I sold most of them fairly recently.

Not sure how far you want to go back, but I'll go back to the early 1980s with Umbro. At those times, it was easy to know which was the replica and which was the players shirt because on the players shirts, the badges were embroidered and the shirt itself was made out of a different fabric, and had a sort of fleecy inside. They were thicker than the replica shirts which only had heat applied badges on. Even before that time, the players shirts had embroidered badges and the replicas had a sewn on badge. Whilst we were with Umbro there were always these differences to the players shirts. In the early 1990s they started doing replica shirts with embroidered badges, although it was a low quality embroidery, whereas the player shirts had a thicker, better quality embroidery. The replicas still had heat applied Umbro logos. If you remember the purple shirt with thin white stripes, that was one of my favourite player shirts I had, because not only was it long sleeved (and you could never get long sleeved replicas, after the 1980s that is) but the collar was 2 piece, the back had a plain section without stripes for the name and number, and it was double stitched on the shoulders. These kind of differences were apparent until we left Umbro and went to Kappa, where the "replica" shirts became almost the same as the player shirts. The blue home and white away Kappa players shirts were identical to the replicas, but there was a yellow third shirt which wasn't available as a replica, and these bring good money nowadays owing to their rarity. Also, the Wembley, striped citrus and navy shirt was a heavier fabric than the replicas. Most of the player shirts in the Kappa days were XXL too. As the previous poster says, the goalkeeper shirts were different in that they had padding on the shoulders and arms, whilst replica GK shirts didn't.

When we moved to Le Coq Sportif first time round, there were no differences between replica shirts and players shirts, apart from that on some shirts, you couldn't get long sleeves in the main, apart from at the end of the season, when the shop sold a few off which Les Chapman ended up not using.

The Reebok replica shirts were identical to the players shirts, with one or two exceptions. In the shadow striped First Advice shirt, only the label would have identified a players shirt as it said T0304 or P0304 if it was a players shirt, and R0304 if it was the replica version. I couldn't find any other differences on these shirts. The same was true of long sleeved versions. Not generally available, but sometimes the last few of Les's were sold off. One of the best examples of this was the long sleeved red and black with the Thomas Cook logo, which were never available to buy but a few XL long sleeved versions went into the shop.

When we went back to Le Coq Sportif, again the players shirts were identical to the shop sold ones. The only other differences have been the size and quality of the names, numbers, and Premier League badges and whilst the shop puts smaller, plasticy names number and badges, the players shirts have a larger felty type lettering and badge. You can still get these from certain suppliers anyway.

Now we're with Umbro again, it remains to be seen if there will be any differences between player shirts and replica shirts, but I'd hazard a guess that they will be the same. If you notice nowadays, you'll find that part of the sales pitch for new kit is the fabric performance which is there for the players benefit in the main.

You often seen "Match worn" or "Player issued" shirts on eBay, and if it's an old Umbro one, you can definately tell if it is or not, whereas the later ones, from Kappa onwards, with a few exceptions if you know what you're looking for, you could easily make up a replica and say it was match worn. That's why these later shirts are not nearly as valuable as the old Umbro ones.



Can you just run that by me again.....!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Replica Kits
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:46 am 
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Wheelsy said the Thomas Cook logo on last years shirt is about 2cm bigger on the plays' shirts. I've got a SWP player's shirt and a normal shirt so I measured the logo..........

AND Wheelsy's right! :)

My SWP shirt is genuine!!!!!! Yipeee. IT'S WORTH A MINT!!!!!! LS Uefa Cup shirt!!!!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Replica Kits
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:23 pm 
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Wheelsy wrote:
Yes, the player shirts and the replicas from last season were the same material. Which is why I reckon most players wore an under-armour layer, to avoid the dreaded destroyed nipple when playing.


Anyone remember the EIDOS home shirts? In fact, I think all the EIDOS ones were like that. I bet they claimed many a nipple....


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 Post subject: Re: Replica Kits
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:01 pm 
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I know that when ive baught a replica basketball vest or rugby league jersey they have been the affordable £40 ones! But recently there have been higher quality player jerseys available in both sports that cost like £60-90!

Im sure footy is the same!


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 Post subject: Re: Replica Kits
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:36 pm 
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clarkie_ni wrote:
When i went on the City Stadium tour i asked the tour guide 'Do the players get a new shirt every game, do they just walk into the changin room on match day and its hanging on the coat hanger ready to be worn'?
He said the players are issued with 10 shirts a season and that yes the kits are regularly washed and replaced ready for match day. This was in the 05/06 era so it was the reebok kit, the player allocation of shirts could have changed while with LCS and now with Umbro.



I agree with Clarkie_ni


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 Post subject: Re: Replica Kits
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:54 pm 
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Lancashire Blue wrote:
r01z wrote:
i always wondered why in the second stint we had with Le Coq that in the first season the goalkeepers Le Coq logo on the player 'official shirts' was visible top of the left chest yet the replica goalkeeper had a different version without the logo upper chest

did they ever sell the same kit or stick with the different version?

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With regard to those keepers shirts, I think they were different to the replicas, because those shoulder patches didn't have the "This is our City" logo on the players shirt either, I don't think. They appeared to be plain. So I think those GK shirts were different to the replicas.




And thanks for the kind comments. I'm a bit of a shirt enthusiast really and only sold most of my collection to fund house improvements etc. I regret selling some of them now!!



The shirts were the same however the club had to cover the this is our city and le coq logo on the shoulders as the premier leagoe only allow so many logos and advertising on a shirt and would not allow us to have the this is our city statement on the shirts!


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 Post subject: Re: Replica Kits
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:30 am 
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Is that why they stopped the MCFC on the back of the shirts like the Kappa strip? I rather liked that, me...


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 Post subject: Re: Replica Kits
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:26 pm 
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i fucking hate it when you get itchy nipples


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